Invasion of privacy in the name of "protection" (45)

1 Name: Nameless : 2026/03/24 08:08

ITT we discuss the ongoing destruction of online liberty through government datamining efforts. Systemd, which is used by many linux distros, has already crumbled to the age verification laws (´・ω・｀).

2 Name: Nameless : 2026/03/24 13:54

I'm going to have to switch distros. I can't use anything downstream of Ubuntu after this.
https://github.com/BryanLunduke/DoesItAgeVerify

3 Name: Nameless : 2026/03/24 20:01

Sadly even arch uses systemd, so I guess BSDs are the new answer

4 Name: Nameless : 2026/03/25 20:42

Why not use Gentoo?

5 Name: Nameless : 2026/03/25 21:43

>>4
Because it's too hard for me to install (´・ω・｀)

6 Name: Nameless : 2026/03/26 07:05

Use alpine. They wouldn't put age verification in a "docker image distro", would they?

7 Name: Nameless : 2026/03/26 08:28

>>6
You've used it before?

8 Name: Nameless : 2026/03/26 14:58

>>7
It's been my desktop for about 5 years.

9 Name: Nameless : 2026/03/27 19:06

>>3
There are things like devuan that use an alternative init system

10 Name: Nameless : 2026/03/27 19:44

Just when I started to get the hang of setting up systemd services, they pull this shit.

11 Name: Nameless : 2026/03/27 20:24

https://github.com/upper-up/meta-lobbying-and-other-findings
Fascinating shit.

12 Name: Nameless : 2026/03/30 04:32

>>11
I've heard that other companies like g**gle are trying to counter-lobby, though I haven't checked into that

13 Name: Nameless : 2026/03/30 17:39

jewish legal theatrics

14 Name: Nameless : 2026/03/31 00:07

>>4
Gentoo has been ruined by google partnered employees

15 Name: Nameless : 2026/03/31 21:44

>>14
What do you mean

16 Name: Nameless : 2026/04/01 18:44

when are we just going to start seeing alternative operating systems and kernels?

17 Name: Nameless : 2026/04/02 16:58

>>16
Not so much the kernel you have to worry about now but the actual hardware forcing literally anything the government+companies want.

18 Name: Nameless : 2026/04/03 03:48

give up on modernity
buy some cheap as shit microcontrollers and make your own computing stack from the ground up

19 Name: Nameless : 2026/04/03 23:49

>>18
The idea sounds crazy, but this and making your own computer from scratch is a realistic goal considering how dedicated some hikikomori are on the subject of privacy, there is no telling what they could make even if it takes 3 years for each product. I think of this scenario similar to some traditional watch makers that have been in the craft for 70 years and that's all they do.

20 Name: Nameless : 2026/04/08 19:44

it is kind of annoying how much effort you have to put in to escape the whole mess
but 90% of what I can do could be done on a 2006 machine with 2006-era software and not deal with the issues of the modern world

which is a little annoying for the concept of making your own platform since that's still a bit further than what you would get with your own microcontroller based system, even if you were using a fairly modern and fast one (shit, if the Pi Pico could reasonably interface with more RAM, it would just be a useful platform for general purpose computing, and it doesn't even need to be much more RAM, even as little as 8MB or so would work for most non-web browsing, non-video tasks)

the sheer bloat of the modern technology stack has nothing to do with how much memory all the shit you want to do actually needs

21 Name: Nameless : 2026/04/14 05:17

>>20
are you a forth partisan?

22 Name: Nameless : 2026/04/15 02:26

>>21
I have tried to get into the whole Forth mindset since it just seems right up my alley, and while I like the basic idea, I never really could

my brain is too tainted by more C-like languages

23 Name: Nameless : 2026/04/15 17:12

>>22
Too bad. I like C as much as the next UNIX enjoyer, but my life would be markedly worse without Lisp, which is the literal mirror image of forth.

24 Name: Nameless : 2026/04/20 00:25

I don't want anything too exotic, so I'm probably going to switch my machines to Devuan which is Debian without systemd.
https://www.devuan.org/

25 Name: Nameless : 2026/04/20 04:40

>>24
It's either that or Artix.

26 Name: Nameless : 2026/04/22 03:04

I don't feel like it deserves its own thread, but pissmail seems to have gone down. Hopefully it wasn't seized by the government, I think it was in germany/EU.

27 Name: Nameless : 2026/04/22 14:04

>>26
It's a shame, it was pretty useful

28 Name: Nameless : 2026/04/24 02:52

>>27
The owner's house got raided, Germany is worse than I thought. The owner was extra careful about following the law and was very explicit about following EU law.

29 Name: Nameless : 2026/04/24 11:27

I hate jews so much.

30 Name: Nameless : 2026/04/24 23:35

Another service I use for anonymouse email is disroot.org.

31 Name: Nameless : 2026/04/26 13:59

Hopefully disroot can stand longer, cock.li is always on the verge of getting taken down. Protonmail just looks like it's spyware, but I don't actually know the specs of how it is. Does anyone else know?

32 Name: Nameless : 2026/04/27 05:26

I would be slightly fucked if cock.li went down.

33 Name: Nameless : 2026/04/27 05:53

>>31
Protonmail will cooperate with the authorities when pressed, but if one of your emails can be traced to a crime, you've likely fucked up somewhere along the way and just getting banned will be the best case for any email. I don't get any invites to more private services, so i make single-purpose protonmail accounts with the knowledge, that anything i do with them might be used to build a profile.

34 Name: Nameless : 2026/04/27 17:14

>>32
same ( ´,_ゝ｀)

35 Name: Nameless : 2026/04/27 20:08

>>32
pissmail was the only email service I used so I already am.. ( ´,_ゝ｀)

36 Name: Nameless : 2026/04/28 01:35

>>33
But really are there any that haven't? Even cock.li has cooperated a few times, although I still consider proton worse in this regard. I don't know how disroot deals with it.

37 Name: Nameless : 2026/05/04 01:11

Cars are also being attacked with new features that build profiles on their drivers. I don't know if any laws are making this mandated yet however.

38 Name: Nameless : 2026/05/30 14:05

The owner of pissmail was raided by the (((German))) police.
https://x.com/soupDMC/status/2044824088397431279
https://nitter.net/soupDMC/status/2044824088397431279

39 Name: Nameless : 2026/05/30 14:40

found this.
https://elektrine.com/

40 Name: Nameless : 2026/05/30 17:27

>>39
Looks interesting

41 Name: Nameless : 2026/05/30 17:28

>>38
Old news, but I was hoping to hear an update on a possible come back by now.

42 Name: Nameless : 2026/06/02 12:35

Speaking of e-mail services, had any of you used fedora.email before? It was shut down a couple of months ago.
It was nice in that it was essentially like cock.li (down to having a selection of ridiculous e-mail domains for addresses like @loli.wives.forsale), except nobody knew of it so it didn't get harassed and blocked like cock.li is. I think it was really only known among those federated service circlejerkers.
Also it let you alias/forward e-mails among the addresses it let you have which was nice.
I tried sending the contact address of the admin asking for context on why it was shut down, but did not get a reply.

43 Name: Nameless : 2026/06/02 18:04

>>42
Do you know where it was hosted? G*rmany seems to be on a spree

44 Name: Nameless : 2026/06/03 14:03

>>43
Not entirely sure, but I think it was US-based.

45 Name: Nameless : 2026/06/03 21:14

Strange.. I wonder what they used to get a warrant
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