Invasion of privacy in the name of "protection" (53)

1 Name: Nameless : 2026/03/24 08:08

ITT we discuss the ongoing destruction of online liberty through government datamining efforts. Systemd, which is used by many linux distros, has already crumbled to the age verification laws (´・ω・｀).

2 Name: Nameless : 2026/03/24 13:54

I'm going to have to switch distros. I can't use anything downstream of Ubuntu after this.
https://github.com/BryanLunduke/DoesItAgeVerify

3 Name: Nameless : 2026/03/24 20:01

Sadly even arch uses systemd, so I guess BSDs are the new answer

4 Name: Nameless : 2026/03/25 20:42

Why not use Gentoo?

5 Name: Nameless : 2026/03/25 21:43

>>4
Because it's too hard for me to install (´・ω・｀)

6 Name: Nameless : 2026/03/26 07:05

Use alpine. They wouldn't put age verification in a "docker image distro", would they?

7 Name: Nameless : 2026/03/26 08:28

>>6
You've used it before?

8 Name: Nameless : 2026/03/26 14:58

>>7
It's been my desktop for about 5 years.

9 Name: Nameless : 2026/03/27 19:06

>>3
There are things like devuan that use an alternative init system

10 Name: Nameless : 2026/03/27 19:44

Just when I started to get the hang of setting up systemd services, they pull this shit.

11 Name: Nameless : 2026/03/27 20:24

https://github.com/upper-up/meta-lobbying-and-other-findings
Fascinating shit.

12 Name: Nameless : 2026/03/30 04:32

>>11
I've heard that other companies like g**gle are trying to counter-lobby, though I haven't checked into that

13 Name: Nameless : 2026/03/30 17:39

jewish legal theatrics

14 Name: Nameless : 2026/03/31 00:07

>>4
Gentoo has been ruined by google partnered employees

15 Name: Nameless : 2026/03/31 21:44

>>14
What do you mean

16 Name: Nameless : 2026/04/01 18:44

when are we just going to start seeing alternative operating systems and kernels?

17 Name: Nameless : 2026/04/02 16:58

>>16
Not so much the kernel you have to worry about now but the actual hardware forcing literally anything the government+companies want.

18 Name: Nameless : 2026/04/03 03:48

give up on modernity
buy some cheap as shit microcontrollers and make your own computing stack from the ground up

19 Name: Nameless : 2026/04/03 23:49

>>18
The idea sounds crazy, but this and making your own computer from scratch is a realistic goal considering how dedicated some hikikomori are on the subject of privacy, there is no telling what they could make even if it takes 3 years for each product. I think of this scenario similar to some traditional watch makers that have been in the craft for 70 years and that's all they do.

20 Name: Nameless : 2026/04/08 19:44

it is kind of annoying how much effort you have to put in to escape the whole mess
but 90% of what I can do could be done on a 2006 machine with 2006-era software and not deal with the issues of the modern world

which is a little annoying for the concept of making your own platform since that's still a bit further than what you would get with your own microcontroller based system, even if you were using a fairly modern and fast one (shit, if the Pi Pico could reasonably interface with more RAM, it would just be a useful platform for general purpose computing, and it doesn't even need to be much more RAM, even as little as 8MB or so would work for most non-web browsing, non-video tasks)

the sheer bloat of the modern technology stack has nothing to do with how much memory all the shit you want to do actually needs

21 Name: Nameless : 2026/04/14 05:17

>>20
are you a forth partisan?

22 Name: Nameless : 2026/04/15 02:26

>>21
I have tried to get into the whole Forth mindset since it just seems right up my alley, and while I like the basic idea, I never really could

my brain is too tainted by more C-like languages

23 Name: Nameless : 2026/04/15 17:12

>>22
Too bad. I like C as much as the next UNIX enjoyer, but my life would be markedly worse without Lisp, which is the literal mirror image of forth.

24 Name: Nameless : 2026/04/20 00:25

I don't want anything too exotic, so I'm probably going to switch my machines to Devuan which is Debian without systemd.
https://www.devuan.org/

25 Name: Nameless : 2026/04/20 04:40

>>24
It's either that or Artix.

26 Name: Nameless : 2026/04/22 03:04

I don't feel like it deserves its own thread, but pissmail seems to have gone down. Hopefully it wasn't seized by the government, I think it was in germany/EU.

27 Name: Nameless : 2026/04/22 14:04

>>26
It's a shame, it was pretty useful

28 Name: Nameless : 2026/04/24 02:52

>>27
The owner's house got raided, Germany is worse than I thought. The owner was extra careful about following the law and was very explicit about following EU law.

29 Name: Nameless : 2026/04/24 11:27

I hate jews so much.

30 Name: Nameless : 2026/04/24 23:35

Another service I use for anonymouse email is disroot.org.

31 Name: Nameless : 2026/04/26 13:59

Hopefully disroot can stand longer, cock.li is always on the verge of getting taken down. Protonmail just looks like it's spyware, but I don't actually know the specs of how it is. Does anyone else know?

32 Name: Nameless : 2026/04/27 05:26

I would be slightly fucked if cock.li went down.

33 Name: Nameless : 2026/04/27 05:53

>>31
Protonmail will cooperate with the authorities when pressed, but if one of your emails can be traced to a crime, you've likely fucked up somewhere along the way and just getting banned will be the best case for any email. I don't get any invites to more private services, so i make single-purpose protonmail accounts with the knowledge, that anything i do with them might be used to build a profile.

34 Name: Nameless : 2026/04/27 17:14

>>32
same ( ´,_ゝ｀)

35 Name: Nameless : 2026/04/27 20:08

>>32
pissmail was the only email service I used so I already am.. ( ´,_ゝ｀)

36 Name: Nameless : 2026/04/28 01:35

>>33
But really are there any that haven't? Even cock.li has cooperated a few times, although I still consider proton worse in this regard. I don't know how disroot deals with it.

37 Name: Nameless : 2026/05/04 01:11

Cars are also being attacked with new features that build profiles on their drivers. I don't know if any laws are making this mandated yet however.

38 Name: Nameless : 2026/05/30 14:05

The owner of pissmail was raided by the (((German))) police.
https://x.com/soupDMC/status/2044824088397431279
https://nitter.net/soupDMC/status/2044824088397431279

39 Name: Nameless : 2026/05/30 14:40

found this.
https://elektrine.com/

40 Name: Nameless : 2026/05/30 17:27

>>39
Looks interesting

41 Name: Nameless : 2026/05/30 17:28

>>38
Old news, but I was hoping to hear an update on a possible come back by now.

42 Name: Nameless : 2026/06/02 12:35

Speaking of e-mail services, had any of you used fedora.email before? It was shut down a couple of months ago.
It was nice in that it was essentially like cock.li (down to having a selection of ridiculous e-mail domains for addresses like @loli.wives.forsale), except nobody knew of it so it didn't get harassed and blocked like cock.li is. I think it was really only known among those federated service circlejerkers.
Also it let you alias/forward e-mails among the addresses it let you have which was nice.
I tried sending the contact address of the admin asking for context on why it was shut down, but did not get a reply.

43 Name: Nameless : 2026/06/02 18:04

>>42
Do you know where it was hosted? G*rmany seems to be on a spree

44 Name: Nameless : 2026/06/03 14:03

>>43
Not entirely sure, but I think it was US-based.

45 Name: Nameless : 2026/06/03 21:14

Strange.. I wonder what they used to get a warrant

46 Name: Nameless : 2026/06/29 01:22

I wonder if some AI supercomputers could be used to crack open proprietary software/firmware/chipsets so better solutions could be made.

47 Name: Nameless : 2026/07/04 04:19

>>46
There has been some developments in reverse engineering that make use of AI, but as of now it's just add-ons to ghidra/IDA and not much more.

48 Name: Nameless : 2026/08/13 15:02

>>1
Horrible !

49 Name: Nameless : 2026/08/16 09:52

>>16
i think one day i will just learn c with no librarys and write an os from scratch and it will be simple, easy and useful
but its just a dream (︶︹︺)

50 Name: Nameless : 2026/08/17 04:14

For Unixen there is still Solaris/Illumos, Plan9, Minix, QNX and various research projects with a featureset close to v7 (and i guess x86 port of actual v7 UNIX). At least lynx should compile on all of them.

51 Name: Nameless : 2026/08/17 15:12

Mandated digital IDs are probably inevitable for the UK and EU, which would not only cause complications for those that do not have phones, but also for those that do not have the state approved hardware and operating system, pretty much ruling out any practicality of nu-feature phones, graphene, and other free phone projects.

52 Name: Nameless : 2026/08/18 02:23

>>49
There are already plenty of OSes like this.

53 Name: Nameless : 2026/08/18 06:20

All the AI surveillance cameras are going to make things get REAL BAD!

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