https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/85433888/#85436123
If I ever decided to host an imageboard, I'm going to have opening hours.I don't think it's glowies (my money is on some shitty third world mob operation selling pics, it's amazing what you can do when you can just use literal botnet IPs to spam with impunity), but that doesn't mean the spam doesn't advance their aims anyway. An arrow headed for your foes from a third party is as good as one you shot yourself, after all.Also, on a related note, I'm pretty sure there is an extremely high-volume disinformation campaign running on /g/ (maybe 4chan as a whole, but it hit /g/ like a train). Doesn't matter if it's governmental, corporate, or just some cunts who are doing it for the lulz, the board is nearly impossible to have a discussion on and has been for a few years.
Someone I talked to discovered the supposed root of the CP spam, which was a few russian and german websites. There wasn't any CP on the site, but rather a large index of many BBSites
>>420What? russian, okay I get it but.... german?
>>421Yeah, believe it or not. It could have been translated by the Russians since I think both of them were run by the same people.
>>424Are you telling me that all fucking imageboards are getting gang raped by Childmann Porning and his niggas and we didn't know?AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMore seriously, I don't think they translated their website in german. I mean....what's the point?
>>418>my money is on some shitty third world mob operation selling picsthis is the actual explanation
>>429Would russia count as 3rd world? Because it probably is just that. I would post the site(since there wasn't any actualy CP on it surprisingly), but I forgot the url.
You can just tell this was written by someone who has never actually hosted basically anything.>There is no way some random fags are maintaining a database of it that big and have so many IP addresses to upload it from without fear.Yeah, imagine how crazy it would be if the same board that post was posted on had multiple free-to-use proxy sites created simply just to spam the site with.
I've been running an imageboard for a few months and been on imageboards that had to deal with serious spam for ages and I can tell you that the stories about the perils of hosting are made up. The hard part is getting and maintaining traffic. I can tell you that most CP spam is done by autismos trying to spite the moderators and/or get the site pulled from the web by self-reporting to the upstream host. I've seen some commercial spam elsewhere, but it's very low effort. If you don't have a captcha with an easily accessible solver, you won't get spammed by them.Don't use cloudflare by the way, their image scanner is a scam and doesn't stop any CP. It's just another way for them to legally datamine your users for things they can use to track them across all CF enabled sites.>>418/g/ gets it worst because it's full of altchan users due to the lack of a good /tech/ elsewhere. Between 4chan partisans, literal staff posting as anons and feds trying to keep people on-site, you will never hear so many second horror stories about hosting an imageboard.
>>462Does cloudfare cost anything to use? It's probably one of my most hated things about a lot of BBSes today, and paying for it would just maximize how much shit you take from g**gle. I don't think it's even that great at stopping DDoS attacks either.
>>462Cloudflare has a free plan that only costs you allowing them to read and store all your users' data in plain text for DDOS mitgation.
>>465>I don't think it's even that great at stopping DDoS attacks eitherAlso depends on the threat. A global network like cloudflare is pretty much necessary to stop layer 3 and 4 DDOS attacks, but those are very rare for hobbyist sites. Most attacks are layer 7 and can be stopped or mitigated by a proof of work wall like Anubis.
>>469I didn't even know there were different layers of severity.
>>471https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OSI_modelit's not a severity measure, but rather in what way the attack is taking placea layer 7 attack is easy to stop since it targets the way the server software handles requests, and thus it can just not even bother handling extraneous requestsa layer 4 or 3 attack basically overwhelms the infrastructure that handles routinga layer 2 attack... dunno, maybe just blasting garbage down the cable somehow? you're out of the range of anything you can do as a DDoS reasonably here, but you would basically be trying to affect the integrity of packets at this pointa layer 1 attack would probably basically just be going out and cutting cables lolyou are literally attacking the physical transmission medium herethese descriptions are heavily simplified and maybe I'm outright wrong (and maybe not just by omission) at some point, but whatever
layer 1 requires training a shiver of shark; it's not for everyone
